Question and Comment Card
The questions and comments received during the Neighbors Update event have been retyped here. Lacking consent to publish names of those who completed these cards, we assume anonymity is preferable. If you would like a more detailed response please call, or write to us via email, 561-793-1676 and admin@cjgrove.com
1. You could make 400 million building 400 houses as per the 1989 Comp Plan.
In 1989 TTD ( Traditional Town Development ) was not available as a land use or planning tool. The Palm Beach County Comprehensive Plan has been revised many times since it’s original publication. Changes to the Comp Plan are accepted and encouraged as part of the growing, adaptable and mutable environment in which we live. Many of today’s planners might consider continuing a pattern of low density housing on large areas of land to be a continuation of sprawl. We would agree with those planners and we have offered a plan that is antithetical to sprawl.
2. What kind of jobs-industry? Space for churches?
Some office and professional, some service, some retail and some scientific jobs will be available. Space for religious institutions will be available.
3. How is it going to be possible to put this many people, 10,000 sites
in the middle of an orange grove without roads in and out?
There will be new road connections and improvement of existing roads.
4. I “missed” any previous notifications of this development
plan. How were people notified? Was it through direct mail, newspapers,
TV? Is this all already decided on and approved by the county government?
Planning has been announced through newspapers, direct mail and the Callery-Judge Grove website, www.cjgrove.com. The Neighbors Advisory Committee meets the last Thursday of each month to discuss planning and is open to the public, meeting minutes and agendas are posted at cjgrove.com.
County approval has yet to be adopted.
5. What timeframe is expected for this project to start? Will residents
be kept up to date during progression of project?
The approvals may be completed by this autumn, the project could start there after. Callery-Judge Grove has committed to including its neighbors throughout the process.
6. Will the homes be affordable to everyone?
TTD (Traditional Town Development) plans for a mix of use to create a diverse community and a positive tax base. Homes will range from attainable to luxury.
7. Provision for post office and gas station?
Post Office and gas stations are uses consistent with our planning. At this point we can’t say which gas station might open, or if the Post Office will choose to locate here.
8. I would like to see you and Indian Trail get together to repair 140.
We look forward to working with Indian Trail in the future as we have for the past forty years.
9. Great plan and great ideas. Please make sure there are large buffers between workforce area and homes. Need extensive system of bike trails that connect from Acreage homes and CJ. Think about “extra credit” points for Acreage builders and subcontractors who want to work on the project. (I’m not one but think it would be a great idea.) Help us get water to our homes. (The ones who want it.)
Great neighborhoods integrate a variety of uses and income levels to enhance security, activity and pride of ownership.
We have included large buffers in the plan.
A network of trails will extend through the entire property and connect to regional trails.
10. Please remember to include villa style homes for the elderly, not necessarily
town homes. Please don’t build 5 story buildings or apartments.
No apartments.
We look forward to offering area residents the opportunity to“age in place”. Apartments will afford the elderly with the option to live in convenience, such housing will also afford the young a chance to be near their families and become part of the community at an early age.
11. Great planning. I support your vision but please do not put connector roads through Loxahatchee Groves. Thanks so much for the inclusionist policy. No other P.B.C. developer has done this!
Few connections are planned to Loxahatchee Groves, however we hope that our neighbors may appreciate being able to reach the services we will be offering by connecting through their own communities rather than driving around them.
We are not developers but we have enjoyed working with our neighbors to create this plan.
12. Is there going to be “only” single family or is there apartments,
town homes, etc.?
We look forward to a diverse range of dwelling types: town homes; single family homes, and apartments.
13. Build it. They will come.
14. Will this be smaller lot sizes and how does it effect present acreage homeowners?
There will be a range of lot sizes. Present Acreage homeowners will receive
the benefit of the positive tax revenue generated by this property. Implementing
the plan will be a tax windfall for the Central Western Communities. Area
homeowners will enjoy the benefit of increased property value for the major
investment they have in their own homes.
Comments Posted on Easel Board
1. Nice job!
Thanks!
2. Way too many maps.
We felt it was better to have too many maps than too few. We were not trying to overwhelm, but we did want to show how much forethought has gone into the plan and at the same time stretch, and thereby grow, the imagination.
3. What me worry?
4. How do the cars get out?
Through multiple access points at the grove’s perimeter. These points will serve neighbors well by allowing access to useful services.
5. How many people, how many homes, how soon?
Slightly less than the growth rate the Acreage has been experiencing for the past fifteen years. At 2.3 - 2.6 people per Single Family Dwelling Unit (SFDU); 10,000, including single family homes, town homes, apartments and condominiums; 3,000 1st 5 years, 3313 2nd 5 years, 3687 3rd 5years, fifteen years altogether.
6. What about the horse community?
The horse community will share a dedicated network of trails and facilities with residents.
7. What about taxes?
The Callery Judge plan will generate a net- positive return to the Central Western Community tax chest.
8. We want to live in the country, not the city.
We have taken considerable steps to address this sentiment in our plans by creating substantial edge buffering and natural areas. Traditional Town Development (TTD) zoning calls for 5 dwelling units per acre, typical of many nearby urban service areas, our proposed density is approximately half of that.
9. No zero lot line.
Well designed architecture matched with densities appropriate to defining a sense of place will correct ‘zero lot line’.
10. Winn-Dixie plaza may not be your centerpiece, but it is your center-ugh.
Ten years ago, when we partnered to build the plaza, we were more concerned with function then form. Since then, our understanding of community planning and designing for destination has improved.
11. Thanks for including your neighbors
You’re welcome: Thank you for participating. Our neighbors have clearly helped to define the future of this property.
12. Please…no connector roads through Loxahatchee Groves.
The few connections proposed to the south of the property are more likely to benefit Loxahatchee Groves residents than ours. We have an opportunity now to improve the situation without hurting either future.
13. We need places for kids to hang out other than parks. Skating rink,
skate park, etc. Places for nighttime.
Structured events for children should be part of any well planned community. We look forward to providing for such amenities.
14. Need better design for equestrian areas
The equestrian areas located on the grove will provide first-rate facilities.
15. Where are the equestrian trails?
From your web browser go to http://www.cjgrove.com/CJNAC/report.pdf Page
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at the bottom left of the legend locate ‘Horse Trail’ then
use the zoom-in function to follow through the miles of trails planned.
These trails will edge our most scenic wildlife areas as well as wind through
the interiors.
16. We need gas station and hospital.
We look forward to bringing a gas station with modern controls to protect our environment. Medical arts and first response facilities are uses we endorse.
17. Connect horse trails with surrounding neighbors, road south of M canal.
Connecting our future horse trails and environmental waterways to the
Northeast Everglades Natural Area (NENA) and the Comprehensive Everglades
Restoration Project (CERP) are our goals. NENA is an ambitious regional
linked system of natural areas that will greatly benefit from our planned
horse trails. CERP is the largest environmental restoration project in
the world. Our planned system of managed waterways is designed to compliment
and enhance CERP goals by filtering waters bound for the Grassy Waters
Preserve and the Loxahatchee River. We know of no other privately planned
project in Florida to be designed from inception to reach beyond its bounds
for the purpose of cleansing Everglades water.